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For the guys.....and gentlemen  

Tenacious_DH 41M
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6/23/2018 8:42 am

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For the guys.....and gentlemen


Let's face it, when we're on an adult dating site, we're on here for very similar reasons and those reasons I don't believe I have to explain. However, we are human beings and are capable of using logic.

I have talked to a few women and it has come to my attention that there is one thing I do that a lot of other guys don't.....act like a gentleman. I am not on here to boast what I do and do differently, because I sure as hell have my flaws and don't always act accordingly 100% of the time. However, whenever we are on an adult dating site, we seem to lose our manners and logic.

Some women do not mind the dirty talk. However, a lot of women do mind it, even though they may show their beautiful bodies on their profile. It seems that when guys see an attractive lady and or nudity, we as gender lose what makes us human and throw logic out the window. Don't get me wrong, my jaw has dropped on numerous occasions on many profiles and pictures. But we can control something...what comes out of our mouths and how we treat the person we are trying to have a conversation with.

Let's try to be different. Dare to be different than the stereotype that surrounds us guys. We can still appreciate what's in front of our eyes, but let's try to actually have a normal conversation. Would most of you talk dirty to the first lady you met on the street? I would think not, and that's how we could and should approach the ladies on this site. If they want to talk dirty or start conversing that way, that's different. But when starting out a conversation, let's not begin with, "I want to f*** you so hard" or anything similar to that.

Start out with an introduction and genuinely ask them how they are doing, what they like to do, etc. I am not a ladies man by any definition, but it never hurts any chances by acting logical first. Let's start the trend and act with more humility, act with logic, act like.....gentlemen. Let's begin to show our actions with a little more class. It's our move guys.....

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/25/2018 7:59 pm

Sure... we can agree that you are wrong to tell men to be "Gentlemen".

A woman has more to fear from the man pretending, than from the man who does not play Gentleman.

Sapiosexuality does not exist. As I said before, if the woman is on a hookup site seeking intellectual conversation? She's pretending, and she doesn't belong here. She is more likely to get upset and offended by men who are seeking her for some sex.

Ask any woman how many assholes she has sex with since she first started having sex, and that count will be relatively quite high.

Also... NOT playing Gentleman , does not make the man an asshole. Just makes him real.


Tenacious_DH 41M

6/25/2018 6:47 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    Just so you understand what you're doing.....

    You [men who want to play "Gentleman" today], feel guilty because you want to have sex with the woman... so you approach her being submissive , nonsexual daddy-like way, completely dismissing the fact that she is a person with sexual horny desires.

    Today the woman is your social equal.... you don't need to pretend to cover your desires. She knows what you want. Now only a matter of her accepting or rejecting you. Stop playing.

    The woman accepts you, and has sex with you based on her physical attraction to you, [and of course if you are financially able to carry yourself].

    If she rejects you, she didn't reject you because you did or didn't, play gentleman. She rejected you because she has no particular visceral desire to see you naked.

    An asshole could approach the woman, and have sex with her, and historically this is a proven fact.

    You saying,"And as for that 'pretend costume' that was referred to, I am a man. Man enough to use manners and respect." .... No... you're afraid if you approach any female you desire, on a more sexually aggressive level, you'll scare her away.

    Do women concern themselves with putting on a costume when she wants to have sex with a man? No. She approaches him, waits a moment to see if he accepts , and she feels him up.
Yes, all this is true. How can I be so blind to everything? Oh wait, I'm not blind, because I don't know everyone and don't judge everyone. You assume so much about me. But be careful of assumptions; the first 3 letters usually tell us what we are when we make quick assumptions. "Historically proven fact". What is exactly a "historically proven fact"? Do you have written proof? Studies? Certain women respond differently to different methods. Am I saying every woman will respect me for being a gentleman? Noooo. But at least I can respect myself for not being fake. I have spoken to enough women (and actually tried to get to know them by reading their profiles and talking to them), and they all responded in kind that they like I can respond and think on an intellectual level. And some women do scare away when you approach her in a sexually aggressive way, b/c that can give out signals that you may be a creep and potentially dangerous. Some women LOVE the sexual aggressiveness right off the bat....but not everyone. And a lot of the women I have talked to, do have the characteristic of 'sapiosexual' (there's Google if you don't know what that is). Whatever works for you, great. This has worked for me on my part. Can't we just agree to disagree at this point?


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/25/2018 5:55 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    Not pretending to be gentleman , is NOT being an asshole.
heathen...agree with you...

you know what i hate most? what turns me off?

people who are "PRETENDING"...yah..i hate that...

on the other hand, i know, heathen, you don't pretend nothing...that's why i like you...you are who you are...and you say what you want...


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/25/2018 11:30 am

    Quoting japaneseass:
    Amen!!!

    see i am a submissive girl, but that doesn't mean you can be an asshole to me...clearly a Dom and an Asshole is different...

    and ya, i love dirty talks when i play...and i said that, when i play...that doesn't mean, i am always playing...so perhaps, approaching me with "suck this dick, bitch" ain't a good thing...

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Not pretending to be gentleman , is NOT being an asshole.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/25/2018 11:27 am

Just so you understand what you're doing.....

You [men who want to play "Gentleman" today], feel guilty because you want to have sex with the woman... so you approach her being submissive , nonsexual daddy-like way, completely dismissing the fact that she is a person with sexual horny desires.

Today the woman is your social equal.... you don't need to pretend to cover your desires. She knows what you want. Now only a matter of her accepting or rejecting you. Stop playing.

The woman accepts you, and has sex with you based on her physical attraction to you, [and of course if you are financially able to carry yourself].

If she rejects you, she didn't reject you because you did or didn't, play gentleman. She rejected you because she has no particular visceral desire to see you naked.

An asshole could approach the woman, and have sex with her, and historically this is a proven fact.

You saying,"And as for that 'pretend costume' that was referred to, I am a man. Man enough to use manners and respect." .... No... you're afraid if you approach any female you desire, on a more sexually aggressive level, you'll scare her away.

Do women concern themselves with putting on a costume when she wants to have sex with a man? No. She approaches him, waits a moment to see if he accepts , and she feels him up.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/24/2018 6:44 pm

    Quoting Tenacious_DH:
    I don't know if you read the other comments (some of them by women), but they would disagree with your statement. Acting like a gentleman is not acting like a doormat. And I did say within my first couple of sentences that we are all here for similar reasons, so I am not disagreeing with your very last statement.

    But you know what gets a woman's attention? Intelligence and intellect. If you read quite a few of the profiles, a lot of women do say that despite being on this site, they do want respect. And that many of them won't respond when a guy goes straight off the bat with, "Let's f***" or some similar remark.

    As for 'talking dirty', you should get to know the woman first. A lot of them don't mind it....if you actually start to get to know them and then they show sexual interest.

    And as for that 'pretend costume' that was referred to, I am a man. Man enough to use manners and respect. Man enough to not be a doormat but be assertive at the same time (without being overly aggressive). And if a woman does not like these qualities about me, I won't change everything about me just to get laid.

    At this point sir, it sounds like we can only 'agree to disagree', and that's alright.
Acting like a gentleman is not acting like a doormat. ...Today.. a doormat is what you are , if you are playing gentleman.

But you know what gets a woman's attention? ... Yes. Money...Power... Fame.

Intelligence and intellect. ... Nonsense. She tells you that , when she's not the fucking type. She's looking for friendzone men... men to give her attention and validation. Don't waste your time with a chick on a hookup site who says she wants "Intelligent conversation".... She's got syphilis or she's not attracted to you sexually... she's not going to putout. Most are just not attracted to the guy sexually.

a lot of women do say that despite being on this site, they do want respect. ....Goody for her... she has to earn that respect.

And that many of them won't respond when a guy goes straight off the bat with, "Let's f***" .... Yes they will, not all, but many enough, and they'll agree to meet you. Some women understand where they are.

As for 'talking dirty', you should get to know the woman first. ... Not necessary. If you want to talk dirty to the woman, by all means do so. Anyway, you will never get to know her if you don't meet in person. In person is where you get to know her.

A lot of them don't mind it....if you actually start to get to know them and then they show sexual interest. ... Ha.. who told you that? Your mom?..... A woman's attraction to a man is visceral, not cerebral.

And as for that 'pretend costume' that was referred to, I am a man. ... Terrific.. the pretend costume is when the man plays "Gentleman" in 21st century.

Man enough to use manners and respect. ... Don't get all hung up on posing about with manners...Some manners, sure. Other manners are outdated and don't apply today. Use those outdated manners? And you doormat yourself. ...."Respect"?...LOL.. she has to earn that first.


Tenacious_DH 41M

6/24/2018 4:46 am

I don't know if you read the other comments (some of them by women), but they would disagree with your statement. Acting like a gentleman is not acting like a doormat. And I did say within my first couple of sentences that we are all here for similar reasons, so I am not disagreeing with your very last statement.

But you know what gets a woman's attention? Intelligence and intellect. If you read quite a few of the profiles, a lot of women do say that despite being on this site, they do want respect. And that many of them won't respond when a guy goes straight off the bat with, "Let's f***" or some similar remark.

As for 'talking dirty', you should get to know the woman first. A lot of them don't mind it....if you actually start to get to know them and then they show sexual interest.

And as for that 'pretend costume' that was referred to, I am a man. Man enough to use manners and respect. Man enough to not be a doormat but be assertive at the same time (without being overly aggressive). And if a woman does not like these qualities about me, I won't change everything about me just to get laid.

At this point sir, it sounds like we can only 'agree to disagree', and that's alright.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/23/2018 9:24 pm

Some women do not mind the dirty talk. However, a lot of women do mind it, .... Then those women that don't, are on the wrong site. That's logical.

Let's try to be different. ...No. Take off your pretend costume and be a man.

We can still appreciate what's in front of our eyes, but let's try to actually have a normal conversation. .... You converse the way you want to converse. Approach a woman trying to be her best friends puts you in the "Friendzone". .. Your dad should have instructed you on this. When you're attracted to a woman, make sure she knows you are, without giving her a bunch of compliments she's been getting since puberty.

Would most of you talk dirty to the first lady you met on the street? .... If she's hooker? Sure. These women, on this site, are not "Ladies"... why are you pretending they are? They are "Women".

If they want to talk dirty or start conversing that way, that's different. ....Fucking No it isn't! Were you not ever told about "Social equality"? The girls wanted that real bad... so now they have it.

But when starting out a conversation, let's not begin with, "I want to f*** you so hard" or anything similar to that. ...Why not? This is the appropriate site for that. If a woman got that note on Eharmony? Then yes, that guy is weird or confused about what site he's on, but here, that is a appropriate. In fact she can say the to a man, too, [or a woma]... without fear of being shamed and sent home.

Start out with an introduction and genuinely ask them how they are doing, .... Ha.. no. In fact, asking , someone you've never met, can't sense, how they are doing , is creepy.

I am not a ladies man by any definition, ... Okay, then your advice is nonsense for the nice men, and effeminate men, with low self esteem.

act like.....gentlemen. .... Act like a doormat? No way.

This is 2018, not 1918. That woman you are trying to chat up? She's a woman. Don't pedestal her. If you want to tell her you want to see her naked, -because logically, unless you're gay, you want to see her naked , especially if she is in your area.


Tenacious_DH 41M

6/23/2018 7:27 pm

Thank you kind lady for your complimentary words


pocogato12 71F  
37235 posts
6/23/2018 5:24 pm

I sincerely hope some the men on here read this and hopefully "get it" but I ma not holding my breath. Very Nice Summation!!!

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Tenacious_DH 41M

6/23/2018 5:08 pm


Tenacious_DH 41M

6/23/2018 3:07 pm

Why thank you for the compliment That comment might make me blush


seems6666 53F  
4838 posts
6/23/2018 1:04 pm

Halleujah!! Praise the Lord!! we need to clone you


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/23/2018 12:00 pm

Amen!!!

see i am a submissive girl, but that doesn't mean you can be an asshole to me...clearly a Dom and an Asshole is different...

and ya, i love dirty talks when i play...and i said that, when i play...that doesn't mean, i am always playing...so perhaps, approaching me with "suck this dick, bitch" ain't a good thing...

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Tenacious_DH replies on 6/23/2018 3:11 pm:
That's an area I am trying to explore in this message, is the difference between talking dirty when the time is right and appropriate versus just being and coming off as an asshole. I think just a little bit of logic and common sense can help one decipher the differences. And thank you for your response

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